Episode 38

What Should Masculinity Mean?

A few weeks ago, during our crossover episode with Project Sapient, I got to talking with 22 Mohawks founder Dave Campisano about masculinity and what it means, especially to veterans. I told him we needed to do a show on just that topic, so this was the week. We brought on former Marine and current poet Mason Rodrigue as well as Havok Journal owner Charlie Faint to talk about it. And Dave attempted to be the first guest to do the show from a moving vehicle (no spoilers, but it didn't really work out). But it was a good slightly-more-than-wavetops dive into the subject. There will be more to follow...

 

Show Alibis

If you're wondering if we suddenly decided to start publishing these episodes on Thursdays, no we didn't. I'm going to blame task saturation and what turned out to be a false clear memory of publishing it a few days ago. #Facepalm. 

I really like Mason. (I really like Dave too, but only when he's not driving and I'm not calling him Nate). Would have loved to NCO that dude. After two podcasts almost back-to-back with him, he is that extrovert talker that keeps your morale up and the conversation going in the field. Every time I had to cut him off to go to another person, I saw his head drop and felt like he was pawing the ground until he could get back in the flow. Remote podcasting does a real disservice to him, because I'd love to have a back-and-forth in person when interjecting comments wouldn't derail a conversation and set the conversation back. Maybe next time we team up with Project Sapient in Boston...?

Can't wait to get a full episode with Dave Campisano back on the show. Just a great dude doing some really noble work right now at 22 Mohawks. He'll be back on in the dangerously near future, we've already worked it out...

 

Show Notes

Mason Rodrigue

Patrol Base Abbate

22 Mohawks

Second Mission Foundation

Savage Wonder 

Veterans Repertory Theater

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Making order out of chaos, one long-form interview at a time. A Havok Journal podcast.

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